• Badass trucks in Detroit: 2017 Chevrolet Suburban Z71 Midnight Edition vs 2017 Ram 1500 Mopar HEMI Night Package [Video]


    We took a 2017 Chevy Suburban Z71 Midnight edition and pitted it against the Ram 1500 Mopar HEMI Night package. Why? It’s based on an argument that Roman and Nathan had about which truck had the badass feel in Detroit. We are using both trucks to cover the 2017 NAIAS. Fortunately, we had just enough time to rationalize which one was best.


    Mashing up a 2017 Chevy Suburban Z71 Midnight edition and pitted it against the Ram 1500 Mopar HEMI Night package is (definitely) apples to oranges, but this is more about attitude and feel over the utility. Upon receiving these trucks, it only took a few seconds before Roman and Nathan wrestled for the keys.

    Both trucks have their merits and both are packed with the newest tech goodies. It should be noted that both trucks are awesome in freezing Michigan as they have heated seats (the second row of the Suburban was heated too) and both have heated steering wheels. Yes, we were coddled. If nothing else, we established that, on the streets of Detroit, driving a beefy truck was way better than bouncing around in a flimsy sedan.

    Check out our fun video!

    Don’t take it too seriously folks, we did this video for the fun of it!

    Nathan Adlen
    Nathan Adlen
    Easily amused by anything with four wheels, Nathan Adlen reviews vehicles from the cheapest to the most prestigious. Wrecking yards, dealer lots, garages, racetracks, professional automotive testing and automotive journalism - Nathan has experienced a wide range of the automotive spectrum. Brought up in the California car culture and educated in theater, childhood education, film, journalism and history, Nathan now lives with his family in Denver, CO. His words, good humor and video are enjoyed worldwide.

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    23 thoughts on “Badass trucks in Detroit: 2017 Chevrolet Suburban Z71 Midnight Edition vs 2017 Ram 1500 Mopar HEMI Night Package [Video]

      1. Agreed, should have called it the Silvermoon. Where is the air dam? Seems GM is removing it every chance they get for these reviews. Must be embarrassing for them with all the complaints to keep it on.

        I don’t agree with the Ram Blackout if they are painting the truck red? To me this is just badly dressed. When you put a suit on you need a splash of color from a handkerchief and tie. This is just fugly. All black with a splash of red for an emblem would be nice. They are both out of place imo

        1. You can get the Ram 1500 Blackout in black. You can also get in white, red, silver metallic, and a granite crystal metallic. There is only 5 colors, and it makes me a little mad, but it looks pretty awesome in black.

        2. I love my air dam on my 2015 Silverado 3500HD. If it helps me to get between 15 and 18 mpg it can stay.I also like the look it gives to the front end.

      1. Maybe they thought why bother right now our updates are coming. Or did ford have to fix issues with drivetrains and then show up late with midsize? Why even bring up ford here.

        RAM wins here for me. The GM I see at the local kid play places next to the wife’s minivan.

    1. If it was the Silverado with the 5.3 V-8 The Silverado with a better gas mileage than the hemi V-8 in the ram Sutley smaller diameter in the Chevy it also has the cylinder deactivation and better aerodynamics in the Chevy and GMC truck SUV van market The suburban would do better in gas mileage than if ram had a version of that SUV with the 5.7 Hemi V-8

    2. …and they wonder why they write about Fords all the time? Same basic trucks they have had for years. Paint here, grill there, etc. Come on man!

      1. The Suburban is kinda new, but do they still give people headaches? I’d still pick the Suburban over the whatever it’s called now.

    3. Please test the new Suburban HD so we can know why it’s GCWR dropped from 16,000 lbs in 2013 to 12,700 lbs in 2017 while retaining the same frame, engine, and transmission.
      I understand its fleet “only” but dealerships do sell them to the public.

    4. To call a black edition and being red does not make sense. Chrome on the midnight edition does not make it look good. Also the wheels does not make it look nice either.

      As for engines 5.7 ram is long pass do for an update. Like Nate and Roman said why doesn’t Chevy offer 6.2 in the suburban? Probably be better vehicle.

      Personally if I’d choose between the two it would be the suburban, because it is lot better tow vehicle.

      Now what is rear end gear of the two vehicles? What RPM is the engines turning at 60 mph? Thxs

    5. Ram is in the government’s dog house right now. Not nice lying to the consumer about false mpg ratings because of the fact you cheated on the emissions. Fiat, you will pay dearly for this mistake!

    6. 1) The Suburban beats the Ram — no contest at all. Pickups are stupid — muggers can hop in the bed, break out the rear glass and cut your throat while you are trying to remember where the brake pedal is.
      2) There are GOOD reasons why the Suburban is most favored by the Secret Service and executive protection companies. All that weight and power makes it perfect for making a hostile vehicle do a cartwheel with the PIT maneuver — or for swatting a motorcycle assassin team into a concrete abutement. Quiet –so radio comms don’t get broken up by white noise. Handles far better than the Ford Expedition in emergency manuvers — see the Consumer Report road test. Plenty of room and cargo load to carry a squad, their assault rifles and tons of ammo plus lunch. Thick roof pillars and small glass provide a good defense against rioters throwing bricks or swinging baseball bats although a little protective film wouldn’t hurt. And that V8 can carry plenty of Kevlar/ceramic armor if the threat profile rises.

    7. PS I agree –lose the air dam. Gets in the way of climbing a sidewalk curb or crossing an Interstate median if you need to bypass a traffic jam ahead.

    8. PPS Forgot to mention — tfltruck should do a test of large SUVs to see which have strongest bumpers and do best at knocking roadblock vehicles out of the way. Consumer Reports fails to do that for some reason.

    9. Does anyone have any insights about the 2017 HD suburban reduced towing capacity? Looking at the specs a 3000lb limit makes no sense

    10. Does anyone know why the 2017HD Suburban has such a low tow rating? Looking at the specs 3000lbs makes no sense.

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