• 2017 Ram Power Wagon: SUV Rollover Winch Demo [Video]


    The 2017 Ram Power Wagon is the only pickup truck that offers a winch from the factory. Ram worked with WARN Winch company to produce a Power Wagon-specialized 12,000 lbs winch with 90-feet of steel cable.

    Ram organized the following rollover winching demonstration during the 2017 Power Wagon first drive event near Las Vegas, NV. The rollover victim was an older Toyota 4Runner with an external cage. This is a specialized vehicle that is used for off-road rollover training. The Power Wagon winch was used to get the SUV back on its wheels.

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    2017 Ram Power Wagon winching demo

    The Power Wagon WARN winch has a wired controller that is normally stowed inside center console or elsewhere in the truck. The controller plugs in to the winch in the bumper opening on the passenger side of the Power Wagon. The winch is capable of “free spooling” in order to pull our the winch cable. The driver is then is able to get into the driver’s seat and operate the wired controller (the controller wire is long enough to reach).

    If your recovery truck is stationary (in this case the Power Wagon) it’s wise to protect the transmission and put it in neutral, leave the engine (6.4L HEMI V8) running to provide extra juice to the electric winch, and use the truck’s brakes while you are using it as the anchor.

    Check out the video above for all the winching antics.

    Andre Smirnov
    Andre Smirnov
    Andre Smirnov is an Automotive Enthusiast, Producer, Reviewer, Videographer, Writer, Software Engineer, Husband, Father, and Friend.

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    41 thoughts on “2017 Ram Power Wagon: SUV Rollover Winch Demo [Video]

    1. Hey, they were smart enough to throw a coat over the winch cable!

      Remember, winches are typically rated for max power with an empty or nearly empty spool. A full spool will have less winching power. So it pays to have plenty of cable out. That’s where that free-spooling comes in handy.

      1. According to the Ram Owners manual you have to use 500-lbs of tension when reeling the wire rope in. The poor guy might be doing 250 at best. Now if I wrote something like that in the manual I would give the user a better option as I would realize how ridiculous that is. Why not use nylon rope? Or other? Give the user something practical

        And Ram really has to put and mount the winch controls in the cabin. What a bunch of BS to have to get a cord and plug it in and run it through your window. Plus it would add a cool factor to the interior.

          1. Its actually safer according to this and look at the guy spooling in Nylon vs steel, much more practical. You cannot do 500lbs of tension when re-spooling under normal conditions and the nylon rope does not build up energy like a cable that can slingshot and kill someone if it breaks.

            Just keeping you smart

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnM-hT3vr-c

            1. I am not going to watch your video, because it would make me dumb. Same rated Nylon would be a larger diameter and winch would need to be bigger and still not as safe as steel cable. Nylon is easier to cut, by rubbing on any sharp objects, like the rocks, or by the scratched firelead rollers. Useless for offroad and not safe as steel cable.Nylon needs to be inspected after every use and replaced more frequently.
              The remote control is another story. There are everyday situations, when you need to step out of the vehicle for your own safety to use a winch.
              RAM engineers knows, what they are doing.
              Feel free to install nylon anywhere you want to and install switches inside of your vehicle.

            2. Zviera, the steel stretches and stores energy that can slingshot the cable thus making it more dangerous. Size of the winch argument vs rope is likely your flawed opinion as nylon flattens itself out on the spool.

              The cable will still wear out on rocks if your an idiot and want to run cable or nylon on rocks. Very easy to bring extra nylon rope and re-spool new rope vs cable. The cable also rusts and seizes itself together in the spool with salt water and when it frays it is precarious to handle as it stabs your hands and those little f-ers hurt like hell and eventually breaks just like nylon but yes it has the advantage of being more wear resistant.

              As far as the cable goes for the outside winch, keep it, but add a switch on the interior that is OEM installed to look nice and bring a cool factor to the PW, even light the switch at night that says winch. If you need the cable outside then keep the option.

              Your initial comment is still open to debate. Why is Nylon not safe? Stored energy in steel that can slingshot is obviously more dangerous and people get injuries on their hands from the steel cables as well and likely need a chiropractor adjustment after trying to get 500-lbs of tension in the cable for re-spooling, as per the direction in the Ram owners manual, who you say know what they are doing..

            3. You are not going to use a rope on the cleaned parking lot in the front of the mmall, but offroad. Rocks, sand, mud, ice,hot, cold weather, UV rays,
              everything is going to get in to the rope, killing it faster, make it less reliable and less safer. Just watch the video demonstration again. You will have a rope full of the sand , breaking it from inside, scratching the rollers, very hard to see and expect.
              I will stick with steel cable at my ATV I used at least 20 times mostly to get me from the mud, or up the very steep hill safely, just sprayed WD40 once a year on it and you can install rope, anywhere you want to.

            4. Zviera, the rope can easily be replaced upon a simple inspection and much easier to handle. The cable also becomes frayed and kinked causing more problems. Many Women are into off roading now as well and do not typically have the strength a man will have making it physically impossible to re-spool a steel cable correctly, actually you would need two Sumo wrestlers. On top of that when the truck is coming up the hill and re-spooling as the truck drives forward there is no tension and the kinked rusted frayed cable now binds into the winch. From my viewpoint it is Barbaric and as social media tells from my current research Nylon is now the preferred choice over steel.

              However, if steel cable suits your needs better than all the power to you, just don’t make false statements that steel cable is safer when it can slingshot and kill bystanders or the guy winching outside.

              It is also false to say Ram knows what they are doing. Under harsh conditions or even in good conditions no average person can tension a cable to 500 lbs for proper re-spooling per their manuals instructions.

            5. I am just saying, what my experience is with the steel cable and I am not going to get a rope, because I didn’t have any problems you mentioned at all. I will run my cable for many years to come.Rope slingshots as well. You might have a great experience with rope and like to inspect it and change it frequently,which is ok with me and I don’t really care. Or maybe you are a women and there is nothing wrong with that too. No offense.

            6. Zviera, No the proper nylon rope does not slingshot, it falls flat, unlike a steel cable that can kill you. Completely false on your part.

              Again you have not proven your first point and the 500lb tension required for re-spooling is not practical by anyone with common sense. But Ram seems to be lacking here. Maybe that’s why they rank in the very bottom for reliability in consumer reports, 29th out of 29 manufacturers; because they know what they are doing.

            7. Canoepaddler, I would not doubt if that is true, after my research on this today, it is a big debate and most are switching to Nylon from the majority perspective I get out of the debates on line. It’s easier to handle and easier to fix in the backwoods with a new line and the biggest thing is, it is safer.

            8. Nylon has been a safer method for many years now. Lighter, stronger, safer. You never see steel being used to tow ships or tie them up to shore. When cable snaps, it has a massive amount of stored energy. Nylon disipates almost instantly. Cable is more compact but you have to be careful around it. Both need inspecting for damage.

            9. Zviera February 13, 2017 at 11:40 am
              “You are not going to use a rope on the cleaned parking lot in the front of the mmall, but offroad. Rocks, sand, mud, ice,hot, cold weather, UV rays,
              everything is going to get in to the rope, killing it faster, make it less reliable and less safer.”

              You could not be more incorrect. Modern Nylon ropes are designed for some of the harshest environments. The stuff you mentioned is just a few of the specs that these products excel at. I thought you said yesterday you were leaving and not coming back. You said being here was making you “dumber”.

            10. Zviera most will. As far as I am concerned a line weight negates most of the risk if that steel cable ever breaks. Easy to maintain and durable. No need to worry about uv, heat, or sharp objects. If anyone gets a chance Google golden gate bridge spinning the cables. It’s crazy!

            11. I am not going to clean a rope in the bucket with soap water, and check it for any debris inside the rope, all the time I will come back from the offroading,or be stressed out if it breaks when on the very steep hill.
              I have a 3500lbs winch at my light ATV,so I am not going to break it in my lifetime.

            12. Zvier, a winch on a quad is pretty light, 3500# compared to 12,000#. The winch on the Power Wagon is crossing that line, where despite the better abrasion resistance on the cable the Nylon is making more sense for practicality. But even on a quad the steel cable will still have a lot more hidden energy if something lets go.

            13. The nylon is lighter and easier to handle. A lot more practical than a cable that is too heavy for many users and at 500-lbs for re-spooling; not practical for anyone when you have 30 feet of rope to haul in under 500-lbs of constant force. Ridiculous.

    2. You know this is all find and dandy, but when you have to winch something out or doing what they did. There is no perfect setting like they used when you have to winch something out or did what they did. Even the weather was perfect. This is really basic winch operation.

    3. I’m a little hurt by jimmy johns. He has had me confused with Zviera! His grammar and punctuation is hideous (sorry Zviera). Nice video TFL.

      1. I am not the one criticizing the RAM for installing a 12000 lbs winch with steel cable. I could call all of you a trolls.

        1. All I was getting at was the steel cable is too heavy and not practical for most users, and I can see that to be true via the manual for the Power Wagon, stating you need 500-lbs of tension when spooling in, plus the ladies here struggle with the weight of the cable and its dangerous. The guy in the video is struggling to hold tension in the cable at the end, imagine him doing that for 50 feet or more. I would need an ambulance. Throw on the more user friendly and safer Nylon that needs maybe 3-lbs of tension as you reel in.

          But Ram is the only one to offer a winch and that is commendable. However, I would rather see a manufacturer add a removable winch that gets stored under the seat with the tire jack, where it will always stay clean, dry and warm that hooks into a class 4 receiver hitch receiver and plugs the power into into the trailer plug. Add the class 4 hitch to the front bumper and this way you can use the winch at the front or rear of the vehicle or give it to another truck that can hook up to you, completely universal and clean when you go to use it rather than buried under your bumper in a mud hole where it is inaccessible.

            1. Rambro, You had me thinking of who uses nylon for their winch’s. Warn does and for their industrial products.

    4. OLYMPUS 25
      UNPRECEDENTED POWER IN AN ELECTRIC WINCH
      At 25,000 lbf (11,340 kgf), the Olympus 25 has the largest pulling
      capacity of any electric winch available. The high-tech axial flux
      permanent magnet motor provides an extra-long extended duty cycle
      for the longest, most difficult pulls. In fact, the Olympus 25 is the
      only electric winch that delivers near hydraulic levels of performance.
      On top of its power, it’s extremely efficient, and uses 1/3 the power
      of a typical electric winch. The compact lightweight structure makes
      it easy to mount, and helps to maintain your vehicle’s payload
      capacity and fuel economy. The waterproof construction and superior
      corrosion resistance, along with an overload interrupt switch (OLI),
      provide excellent durability, control, and performance. The Olympus
      25 is made from lightweight aluminum alloy and features a durable
      industrial contactor and a heavy-duty remote control with a 32’ (10m)
      lead. It is equipped with 100’ (30m) of WARN Severe Duty synthetic
      winch rope with patented six-strand Dynema construction for the
      ultimate balance of strength, durability, and weight.

    5. I have to correct my statement earlier because I though cable was more compact than nylon. After looking at the products available, Nylon seems stronger, lighter, and just more robust than the steel cable.

    6. Like I said, all the dirt, snow, rain , mud, gravel from everyday driving during a week is going to get in to the rope and when you need it on the weekend, breaks.
      Very convenient.

      1. The 2016 Power Wagon I test drove was brand new and they wanted 60,000 Canadian. What of the turn-offs was the winch cable as it must of hit salt water on the highway and it was full of galvanic corrosion. Salesman pulled it out to demonstrate and galvanic grey dust was in the air. Very unsightly for a brand new waxed 60k truck. rather an eyesore. The rope will get dirty as well but the last ten feet looks covered which would rap around the spool to protect the rest of the rope from dirt. But all the more reason to make it removable and storable under the rear seat.

        1. I get that salt in to my winch every season , when pulling my ATV at my utility trailer behind me. You wash it from the mud and salt when on the way home and spray it with a WD40 and it’s perfectly fine, will last forever. Just imagine all that stuff you are getting directly in the winch rope, while driving on the road and off road. Impossible to get it off from inside with just pressure washer. Waiting for disaster when least expected.
          And I don’t believe you at all, the story you are trying to sell in here, but if you want to keep your tools pristine , never use them. Keep that rope on the shelve. That rope couldn’t be even installed in Canada up the front of any vehicle to survive even one season I guarantee you that.

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