• 2017 Nissan Frontier S Costs $20K and It Is Our Newest “Final Frontier” Long-Term Truck! [Live Video]

    2017 Nissan Frontier King Cab S 2WD project truck
    2017 Nissan Frontier King Cab S 2WD

    Check out our newest long-term pickup truck – 2017 Nissan Frontier S King Cab 2WD. This is a “work truck” model from Nissan. This truck has a CD player, radio, bluetooth phone connectivity, A/C, and cruise control – all for a final price of $20,730.

    The truck is powered by a 152 hp / 171 lb-ft of torque 2.5L inline-four cylinder engine. The 5-speed manual transmission does sends the power to the 4.10 rear axle.

    This truck does not a key fob for remote locks, it does not have power windows, power mirrors, or power seats, and this is exactly how want it. We have big plans for the truck we call the “Final Frontier”.

    Here is Kent “Mr Truck” Sundling and Andre doing a live video reveal of the truck.

    Andre Smirnov
    Andre Smirnov
    Andre Smirnov is an Automotive Enthusiast, Producer, Reviewer, Videographer, Writer, Software Engineer, Husband, Father, and Friend.

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    70 thoughts on “2017 Nissan Frontier S Costs $20K and It Is Our Newest “Final Frontier” Long-Term Truck! [Live Video]

      1. Oh, just watched the video. If you’ll only have it for 6 months I guess you won’t run into too many situations where you’ll want/need 4wd

    1. Good Choice, TFL!

      I bought a 2WD, 2010 Nissan Frontier Crew Cab, with V-6 and Manual Trans (in 2010 no less): $24K. It’s a real keeper: a more-than-basic truck, nicely designed, no unnecessary electronic do-dads, great seating, rides VERY smoothly, — and, shockingly, offers 280 HP with 25 MPG at 75 MPH!

      They’d have to peel my cold, dead fingers off the steering wheel to take this one away from me!

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        1. Thanks for running the old 1985 Chevy up the Ike, it would also be cool if you could run an injected (better for the altitude affect vs. a carb) Dodge 5.9,Chevy 350 Vortec, Ford 351, all three injected, with highestablished numerical gears available (pick 1 class, 2500/250 or 1500/150.)

    2. Question from the camera guy: “Why 2WD?”

      Why not? 4WD is WAY overrated, unless you need consistently to go through massive winter snowstorms; want to climb Mt Everest, or live in mud.

      All you need for more-than-adequate 2WD traction is:
      1) A good manual transmission (for control);
      2) In winter (or other very slippery conditions), about 300-500 lbs of weight in the bed, over the rear wheels;
      3) Good ground clearance (which this truck has);
      4) Great All-Season tires (or outright Winter tires);
      5) Practice and experience. REPEAT: PRACTICE and EXPERIENCE, as in not doing dumb things! (Ask me how I know….(^_^).)

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      1. Yea, I bought a 4wd truck and I have not really needed in the two years I”ve had it. Sure I turn it on when we’ve got that 2 or 3 inches of snow but mostly just to excersise the system.

          1. You got that right! I have a red Dakota good A/T tires, bUT open rear axle. Even pointed up a hill in my yard (all the weight to the rear) no go!

            But my fwd Buick pulls it out!

      2. Good tires make a bigger difference than many guys understand or want to admit. 4WD isn’t very useful if your tires suck. 2WD is manageable witn good tires and some weight in the bed.

    3. That’s a gem of a truck and it is economical. It will get the job done for a long time to come. Unfortunately, I have to drive Great Lakes snowbelts and muddy Appalachian hills. I would have to go 4×4, unfortunately. But, otherwise, great deal!

      1. I’ve driven my 1986 2WD Nissan 720 in the snow for years with no problems with studded snow tires and only occasionally did I have to use snow-chains.

    4. In 1992, I bought a salvaged 1986 Nissan 720 Kingcab 4 cylinder 5 speed with 140K miles on it for $3200. Six months later someone ran into the back and the insurance paid out $2600. I fixed it myself so the truck wound up costing me $600 plus some bondo and paint. I’m still driving it after 25 years with 275k miles on it. That’s why you buy a Nissan 4 cylinder pickup. After driving it all these years, the only thing I wish it had are air bags, power mirrors, and a cruise control. Unfortunately, these old pickups are coffins on wheels, unlike your Frontier which does very well in crash tests. Put power mirrors on your truck and it would be perfect.

    5. I know Toyota had some frame rust issues several years ago but didn’t know Nissan is still having issues. I have never owned a Nissan but do like the fact that you can still get a decent priced truck like this for a fair price. Has anyone heard of the frame rust issues?
      http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com

      1. The late 80’s early 90’s Nissan Hardbody pickups has rust issues in the rear wheel wells. Not Toyota-bad, but if left unaddressed, the frame would get pretty krusty. The Frontier never dealt with the cancerous rust problems the Tacoma had (witnin reason anyways, you can get stainless to rust with enough neglect). You don’t see Frontiers breaking in half on shop lifts like Tacomas anyways HAHA.

    6. It looks like these are Navarras that are having the issue which might explain in part why the US does not have the new trucks yet.

    7. They are nice litle trucks. I like mine for sure. Not too economic in gas though. But the problem with the passenger air bag flashing drives me crazy. The dealer has been telling me they have fix it but not. I think they just want to let it run out of warranty si it is my problem. I have been waiting 5 years for it ti get repaired. They reset it every time I guess!

    8. This truck in 3 years with 45,000 miles like Romans Raptor will have lost the buyer more money than the buyer who bought the 50,000 dollar Raptor. Just something to ponder. 🤔

          1. Rambro, on the Pro stay away from the one color everyone is getting – Cement. I like the color but from what I see in the SE USA inventory maybe 9/10 are that color. Buy something different like the White or Barcelona Red so you won’t have what all other Pro owners have. When you go to unload it the rarity of the color may help. I know White is not generally rare but it looks great on the Pro and where I am it is like looking for a unicorn.

            1. I would only get the white. Cement is nice but it doesn’t stand out like the white with black and red accents. Black would have been a nice option. 2018 may offer other colours though.

      1. Depends on interest rateson loan, length on loan and insurance. But yeah the limited release of the raptors really helps hold there value.

      2. Yet it’s a bargain and extremely reliable, something that Consumer Reports has pointed out can’t be said about the 3rd gen Tacomas. The Frontier also hasn’t suffered the massive rust rot issues thT has plagued all past Tacomas. We can speculate on resale value all day, but a lot can change in the future. Why overpay for a mediocre 3rd gen Tacoma when you can get a better truck for $5-10k less?

        1. I’m on the Canadian site and the Frontier is just as expensive as a similar equipped Tacoma. The motor in the Frontier is way better but I just don’t like the look of Nissan. Which is just a personal preference and the Tacomas still do hold their value better so they are most likely to be the cheaper buy in the 2-3 year scenario that I am in. If you keep both trucks for 10-15 years that might play out differently.

          1. I would have to mostly agree with Brick on this. Asking prices might be similar, but Nissan dealers know the Frontier is old and they’re more willing to make a deal. My experience with the two closest Toyota dealers is that they don’t move much, even when I got them to match each other’s offer. The Tacoma sells enough that they aren’t going to play ball.

            1. Toyota can’t move on their new prices because if they did then the used Tacoma’s on their lot would cost more? And that’s the truth.

    9. The Raptor is a smart buy if you don’t mind spending the money on it. I considered it when I bought but I couldn’t find one that was closer to a base truck. They all had $25K in options on them and I don’t want all that stuff.

      1. I’m getting the Tacoma Pro Moondog. Wrote you a speel on the 2018 Tundra thread. Would pull the trigger on the 2017 in March but the dealer told me the 18’s will have adaptive cruise control and my remote start option, my pet peeve, finally remote start on a Tacoma. Which should be here in October, almost don’t want to wait but my 2015 is nice for now.

    10. Rambro, that was a very thoughtful approach you took. I came to this conclusion when I got my 2nd gen Tacoma in 2010. Again I flirted with a full size (Raptor and Power Wagon) but once I drove the 3rd gen I was hooked. The interior materials are far nicer than the 2nd gen, the Entune is simply intuitive and easy to use, the truck actually sits an inch higher than the 2nd gen, and the mileage is far better. Like I said I’m up to 21.1 and it just keeps climbing as I get more miles. My first thoughts were worries about the power but the AI in the transmission has to learn your driving. My first experience was one of this truck doesn’t have enough power. Trust me, it has far more power than the 4.0 and every day it seems like it gets more as the truck adjusts to my driving. To me the 2nd and 3rd gens both felt a little lazy at low speeds until you step on it a bit. The big difference to me between the trucks is the obvious step up in interior quality, great electronic features, and the overall quietness of the truck. I have to remind myself this is a truck at times because it is that quiet (for a midsize). I will admit that I wish Toyota would grace us with a power front driver’s seat so we could adjust the front up just ever so slightly but I’ll still take this any day.
      Rambro, face it, you like midsize trucks! It’s OK! LOL. So many people talk about how we over pay for the Taco until real math is crunched and until we unload them (drove my last one 4.5 years and sold it for 95% of what I paid) then the value doesn’t look so bad. I could not be more pleased with my truck and plan on doing a full review when time permits. If. Or maybe I’ll ask TFL to come get it for a few weeks and let me know what they think! In the end you are making a good decision and I know deep down you know that too. With the cold weather you deal with I can see the remote start being something you may need. I also know you are not an aftermarket fan (neither am I) but you can add it on the cheap if needed.

      1. Your comments on the 3.5’s power contradict the entire internet community. You are the first person to not only compliment the 3.5’s so-called power, but also the transmission, which is nearly universally disliked on TacomaWorld.

        Also, whoever paid 5% less than the new price for a used 4.5 year-old Taco likely had some sort of mental health issue. Or you’re just making it all up lol. Nice story brah.

        1. Hey Brick, I never make anything up. I got an incredible deal on my second gen and because of that along with a great resale value I was able to get a great price. The second owner sold it and got his money back and a little change to boot. My first thoughts in the third gen motor was that it was weak until I spent some time in it. Motor Trend got a 6.8 and 7.1 second 0-60 run. For me that is not weak for a truck. Maybe you have different expectations.

          1. As long as they keep giving me my money back they can whatever issue they want. I don’t care but I buy cheap and then get a good price when I sell so that works for me. Maybe some of you don’t know how to buy cars cheap enough. But, I understand where you’re coming from. I think there is a market of buyers out there that buy used no matter what and never consider new. Several years ago a study was done with the Honda Accord. It was discovered that 2-3 year old Accords were selling for higher prices than new ones. Lesson learned – it pays to evaluate all of your options.

            1. 7 yrs, which usually puts 200k on. Wouldn’t expect anything other than fluids, tires and front pads till 120k. Unless it’s a ford then include lower ball joints.

    11. BTW, Rambro, if you decide to wait on the 2018 you are still riding very well in that 2015! I’m glad you figured out what you knew all along – it’s hard to get away from a Tacoma once you have owned one!

      1. Moondog in 2018 my dealer said Tacoma will be adding power seats. Hopefully he is right. The only downfall is they take long to adjust. My 5.1 partner especially finds them a nuisance because she has to bring herself up to the steering every time and wait for it to back away from the steering wheel in order to get out. Power seats for her are a pain in the ass because they are slow. She is close to the steering wheel and it’s too awkward to twist and get out without moving the seat back and the manual seats are quick and easy where the power seats are slow. Makes a difference when it’s -30 out and your in a rush. Bit of a nuisance for her. She figured that out in the Tundra with the power seats. But it would be nice if they offered more adjustability. Telescopic wheel is pretty limited as well

        1. Power seats have never been a deal breaker but even more options for a manual adjust would be nice. Either way I’m a happy camper. Also, regarding some of the comments folks have made on the 3.5 had they read on in some of these forums software updates have made a huge difference from 2016 to 2017 for the transmission. I have zero issues and the number never lie – 6.8 to 60 is not too shabby. It’s good enough for me.

          1. Just enough power but I wish they would do better. I would pay a premium for an optional boost of some sort but these are timid times for the auto industry with electric coming on board and the CAFE restrictions from the EPA. Maybe an E-assist would be perfect for low gear acceleration.

            1. Trust me, once you drive it and you get used to it and the AI picks up your driving habits you will like it. One benefit for sure is the efficiency. I like power as much as the next guy but I’m satisfied. Not too many people with the TSB fixes are complaining now and few complaints with the 17. I do wish they offered the turbo kit like they did with the second gen. That was really nice.

      1. They’re cheap because the truck has been made for years, so Nissan can afford to sell them for less, and has to in order to compete against the newer better Tacoma and Colorado. It does offer an auto. It’s as reliable as the last reliable Tacoma (the 2nd gen made from 2005 to 2015) and has less rust issues too.

    12. I have no problem with a base trim level but the Frontier is a crude uncomfortable rig with not enough interior space. It has an underpowered engine which gets poor fuel economy. I cannot begin to imagine buying a 2wd truck. I realize TFL’s budget is limited…but buy something used rather than waste money on this useless truck.

      1. I think you maybe able to find a new ram for that price. Just looked at local dealer site. Long story short, I would be in a Ram if I was buying right now.

        1. You have to look at how long you are expected to be willing to keep the truck and then look at its resale history. Look at what your payments cost you throughout those years and expected maintenance, even mpg and insurance differences and then decide if the Ram is the better deal, if your focus is 8/10 price and 2/10 convenience or vice vers or something in-between. As MNTNMN put it, research, research, research.

          Where the heck did MNTNMN go anyway.?

    13. You mentioned the air filter a couple times. You should do mileage efficiency runs with different filters to see if certain filets are better than others…is a K&N worth it?

    14. Lol ” the last frontier” that is a good one Mr Kent. Lol

      It has disc brakes all around and the Tacoma don’t. Edge goes I believe to “the last frontier”. I agree that is one big air filter box. Good place to hide your stash. 😉

    15. Growing up in the upper midwest, winter was brutal. My first new cheap ($5200) mini pickup = a 1984 Mazda B2000 taught me to (1. invest in good studded snow tires and (2.secure sand bags behind the wheel wells in the bed. (3.You got a run for the hills, and then crawled over the crest, and (4. used the manual transmission to slow you down. The thing I like most about these trucks is the reliability and low tailgate height for easy access when loading and unloading.

    16. I like the basic truck idea, but I look at that pristine white bed and shudder. I hope that the first thing tomorrow, you take it out and have a spray-in bed liner installed by a reputable installer. If you wait until day after tomorrow, you will probably have a bed full of scratches.
      I think I would buy a base model Toyota pickup if only for the sheet molding compound bed and tie downs as standard. I would like to see how much a crew cab variant of the same truck would cost as they are a lot more useful, overall. Living in Salt Lake City, I would be tempted by a 4WD version but that would change the whole idea of a cheap truck.
      Maybe you have hit on a cheap truck class.
      A lot of future new truck buyers are priced out of a new truck by seeking all the bells and whistles.
      The more I think about it, an honest truck is exactly what you have here.

    17. At this price this is hard to beat. These are crude little trucks but good ones and they have quite a following. I agree on the spray in liner. I have had no issues out of my composite Tacoma beds.

    18. Dissapointed in your truck selection. Currently own a 97 2wd D 21 with 150K miles 2.4 engine. Reliable, tough, great payload at 1400lbs. Rusty bed but it has seen a few salty winters. Bought a 2006 Frontier 2.5 liter engine. Before I got to 60K miles problems with cab temperature controls $200. Fuel pump sending unit $300. Noisy tensioner pulley $75 plus serpentine $50. Any of those repairs shouldn’t happen on a personal vehicle with less than 60K miles. Then I read about potential radiator fluid leaking into the auto transmission of said model and ensuing costly repairs and I lost the bit of confidence I had in that truck. I took a $6000 hit for the 1 year that I owned it. I now drive a used 4wd Tacoma with 110K miles and I don’t miss the Frontier at all though it’s 4 wheel disc breaking was more efficient than that of the Tacoma. I will never visit a Nissan dealership showroom again. But I am sure that you will be visiting their service department soon enough. Good luck and keep checking your radiator fluid level regularly. It may be cheap to buy this truck but there is a reason.

      1. I had the exact opposite experience. The radiator issue was fix years ago. The Frontier is a better built truck at a much better price.

        I’m assuming you’re referring to the radiator issue where coolant contaminated the transmission fluid. That issue only affected 05-10 Frontiers.

        1. The Nissan forums are full of disappointed Frontier owners just like you say Tacomaworld is for Tacoma owners are. I have had zero issues on my Tacomas and it sounds like Marc P and Rambro have had good experiences as well. I have never owned a Nissan and am neutral on them yet you take every opportunity to slam Toyota based off of a quick Google search. I have driven the Frontier and it seems like a solid little utilitarian truck but I wanted something more modern and refined. I also wanted something that was proven for me. I got that – I got a Tacoma.

    19. I’ve never commented here before, but I just wanted to let you guys know that I love your reviews and videos and am excited about the new Frontier!

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