• TFLtruck By the Numbers: 2017 Honda Ridgeline vs. Toyota Tacoma [Video]


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    Our new video segment, “TFLtruck By The Numbers”: 2017 Honda Ridgeline vs. Toyota Tacoma, plays out exactly as it reads. We take two vehicles, in this case, the 2016 Toyota Tacoma and the 2017 Honda Ridgeline, park them in our studio garage and go nuts with a tape measure. This video segment has real-world measurements; meaning, many of our measurements tend to be rounded (up or down) and are not micrometer perfect. That means the numbers are approximate.

    Automakers have exact specifications; why do we bother?

    What you’ll see is our team comparing these numbers side-by-side. It makes the numbers more real, more compelling and it gives the truck’s dimensions a basis of (easy-to-see) comparison. While we do not provide all of the differences in measurements (it would be a three hour program – if we did), we try to show numbers that are important to the consumer.

    Editor’s note: there are a few surprises to be gleaned from this objective comparison: driver’s seating position, bed size, and more.

    We are posting this on TFLnow, our newest channel. TFLnow is, primarily, our behind-the-scenes and live channel on YouTube. While we are hoping the TFLnow channel will soon have the ability to live broadcast, it’s a great place to show fun productions like the TFLtruck By the numbers: Toyota Tacoma vs Honda Ridgeline video.


    Nathan Adlen
    Nathan Adlen
    Easily amused by anything with four wheels, Nathan Adlen reviews vehicles from the cheapest to the most prestigious. Wrecking yards, dealer lots, garages, racetracks, professional automotive testing and automotive journalism - Nathan has experienced a wide range of the automotive spectrum. Brought up in the California car culture and educated in theater, childhood education, film, journalism and history, Nathan now lives with his family in Denver, CO. His words, good humor and video are enjoyed worldwide.

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    17 thoughts on “TFLtruck By the Numbers: 2017 Honda Ridgeline vs. Toyota Tacoma [Video]

    1. Even though I am very critical of Toyota’s USA light truck line up, this is an unfair comparison as the intended buyer for each truck has different needs and there is little overlap in these needs. I like apples and oranges, but I wouldn’t compare the two even though both are fruit.

      There’s more to a truck than its dimensions.

      1. Albeit true, there may be someone stuck in the middle between the two. I would take the Honda over the Taco personally.

      2. I agree with what you’re saying about the differences and different buyer demographics, however one can’t deny the fact that they are in the same tiny category/genre/class (along with the frontier and colorado/canyon), so although they are distinctly different, ultimately this comparison is still apples to apples.

    2. Keep up the good work! I think you guys are pointing out details that a lot of people probably haven’t considered before they make their purchase. Since I believe you have most test vehicles for a short period of time (a week or so), a “how is it to live with” video series might be helpful for folks (getting supplies at the DYI store, taking family on a short trip, packing camping supplies in it…

      1. Following up on real world comps, how about including how well each would carry road bikes and 29er MTB within the four sides of the bed (with or without front wheels.
        Liking the videos by the numbers, including a table in the text similar to first by the numbers video would help! Thanks!

    3. I like these comparisons. Surprised the Ridgeline had the ground clearance it had. However, that could be conceived by some that the Ridgeline is not that bad for rough terrain compared to the Tacoma when really it is the approach angle that will debilitate the Ridgeline compared to the Tacoma. That 7.8 inches up front will quickly become less than 0 when you factor in the angle of approach.

    4. The Tacoma has grown over the years to full-size truck proportions.
      Even the new Ridgeline is disappointing.

      I miss my 1990 Nissan Hardbody. It was simple. It was cheap. It was rear wheel drive, because I drive only on city streets and to commute to work. It had a bed, because I do work on my own house, and have hobbies, and enjoy bringing things like grills to parties for friends. I don’t tow and drive uphill through mud and snow in two directions.

      Now that I’m older, a rear seat would be handy. 10 MPG, less-than-nimble proportions and weight, driving a truck built from girders to tow things I’ll never tow and having a price tag covering those things rather than things I actually want in a truck – those things aren’t so handy.

    5. Guys, please. Can we get back to writing instead of video’s? I’d much rather READ a review than watch it.

      Sorry, but I didn’t click it. And I really did want to see what you had to say.

      1. We have individual written reviews for every single vehicle that we do video reviews for. This is just a small segment that goes along with the other reviews.

    6. A few things . . .
      The first generation Ridgeline had more than 48″ between the wheel wells so it could haul a 4’x sheet flat. You seem to indicate that this is something new to the GenII which is incorrect. GenII does have MORE bed width than the GenI though.

      If y’all are measuring, why isn’t storage (dry secure) an important feature? The Ridgeline’s trunk is a hugely useful storage space that the Tacoma (all the others too) lacks. It also is probably the reason why the bed height is less, so the Ridge is dinged for bed height but not given credit for storage?
      What about WIDTH?? Isn’t their a huge difference there which equates to considerably more cabin room in the Ridge?
      What about rear seat legroom? Again isn’t their a huge difference?
      Basically, I think y’all missed some important specs in your measuring that have a pretty big impact on the driver / passenger experience inside the vehicle.
      I also agree with the other poster who want’s a written review instead. “By the numbers” doesn’t lend itself very well to video imho.

    7. Since all pickups I have seen have notches in the bed for precut 2X6s so you can carry plywood above the wheel wells, so while nice the wide bottom bed is not a real killer with these smaller trucks, for me I have learned to live with it. But what does bother me with the Honda’s bed is where they put the spare. It is not under the bed like the other trucks and is in the space taken up by Ridgeline’s storage box. It is under the bed in front of, and accessed from inside the botton bed storage area. Nice except when you have to change a tire when you are loaded. In some cases you would be screwed but most Ridgeline owners aren’t going to load them like that are they????

      1. I have used my 06 GenI for construction use (renovation type) for 10 years. I can promise you that it is much more convenient to load sheets of building materials directly onto the bed surface instead of the using the clugey 2×6 system above the wheel arches. Those raised flat bed carts from Home Depot are the perfect height for off loading flat sheets into the Ridge’s bed single handed. I’ve had 25 sheets of 1/2″ drywall in the Ridge’s bed. How many are you going to load on those 2×6’s (actually 2×4 is probably more like it).
        Spare in the bed? Lets see, how many times has this been an issue in ten years?? ZERO. IF had had a flat with a full bed, I would deal with it and consider it a small price to pay for a huge amount of useful storage and a spare tire that is free from corrosion and otherwise easy to access.

        I do admit I am a bit disappointed that Honda actually reduced the size of the trunk. Signature feature, that requires alot of engineering and cost to pull off (dual action tailgate for example) yet Honda makes it smaller??
        The limited rear door opening angle is also a baffling flaw that reduces the otherwise huge and useful transforming rear seat area. . .
        Hopefully Honda will make some good tweeks in a refresh in a couple of years.

        One more thing . . .In the Video y’all talk about the absence of the upper end Pilot’s 9sp transmission in the Ridge. The ZF9spd has not been well received in just about every vehicle (Honda and Other) that it has shown up in. I believe its absence in the Ridge is at least in part a recognition by Honda that it is liability rather than an asset. Honda’s new in house 10sp will hopefully prove to be a much better unit and eventually find its way into the Ridge.

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